We are all sinners but this is a gross allowance of leadership in Gods house! Comment by David S. on May 27, 2022 at 2:11 pm, Romans 1:18-32, or Judges 21:25: In those days there was no king in Israel; everyone did what was right in his own eyes., Comment by Brett on May 27, 2022 at 2:23 pm. Continue to have a home??? He claims, Drag allows me to process the mystery of myself, the mystery of God, the mystery of love, and the mystery of pain. Drag queen leads 'children's sermon' at United Methodist Church This is yet another wake up call for traditionalists. The time of change-making will likely be uncomfortable for you, but just as the liminal last days of Christs life were uncomfortable for him, the liminal days which rest between now and the end of injustice will be uncomfortable for us all., He went on to warn that those of us with the privilege of whiteness, of cis-ness, and the privilege of the access to power must be willing to get uncomfortable., Oliver then turned to address the children and referenced Romans 12:2, which reads in part, Do not conform to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind., One of the things I think is great about Ms. Penny Cost is that she reminds us that we follow a God who calls us not to conform to things of this world, Oliver is heard telling the children. Drag Queen Pastor - Isaac Simmons came upon the idea of merging drag and spirituality through an unlikely source: 20th century Russian philosopher Mikhail Bakhtin. Most of all, come home to Christ.. The problem is the UMC and GMC seem to be focusing on one while ignoring the others. Simmons, an associate pastor at Hope UMC in Bloomington, Illinois, has a video on his website in which he declares the Bible is nothing, adding, God must be nothing / Religion must be nothing / It is all nothing / Until we wield it into something.". So glad we left the UMC when we did. Awful theology and the fact he is a candidate for ordination is an indictment of the UMC. Our Polarized World Cries Out for Balance, Education Under Siege: Two New Books Discuss the Ongoing Battle, Abandon Hope, All Ye Who Support Reparations, Pope Appoints Extreme Leftist to Doctrine Office, Trumps Poll Numbers Are a Cry for Justice, The Biden Administrations Title IX Revisions Provoke Backlash From Left and Right, Five Quick Things: The Delicious Denouement of Affirmative Action, Joe Biden Throws Son Hunter Under the Bus. The liberal wing will. Courtesy photo "It is mind-boggling simply that it's 2021 and I'm the. This is just one of the reasons I no longer wish to be associated with United Methodists in ANY way. 5 more conservative denominations that allow women to be pastors, 'War Room' actress Karen Abercrombie returns with powerful series shedding light on foster care crisis, Mob of parents brutally beat Indian high school principal over claims of 'Christian prayer', This week in Christian history: Fatima vision, first Chinese Protestant baptized, Kirk Cameron demands investigation of American Library Association for religious discrimination, For children with disabilities, a family makes the difference, Fear not those who kill the body but can't kill the soul, How the local church can change the culture. Methodist Voices on November 22, 2021 United Methodist drag queens as spiritual leaders in the denomination has once again become a hot topic in the news. When THIS is what is ok. Traditional Methodists highlight Simmons as the reason to encourage individual churches to join their new traditionalist Methodist denomination. Our desire is to provide an opportunity for Craig to again be able to utilize his numerous gifts as a pastor in a local congregation. 20.1-3) SMHSadly the kids are. Recently, a video was posted by openly gay Isaac Simmons , an associate pastor at Hope UMC in Bloomington, Illinois, who has been widely celebrated as the first drag queen certified as an ordination candidate in . Such was Pentecost Sunday at Hope United Methodist Church in Bloomington on Sunday, where a large number of seats were filled, with still even more . Its not clear how many children attend Allendale, but the church reportedly has a fellowship size of roughly 100 people every Sunday. The Rev. Penny Cost, to deliver the sermon on Oct. 2 because he wants all people to see people like themselves called by God to preach the Gospel., In a Facebook post, Oliver wrote that Simmons who was seen in a video clip of the service wearing a wig and a sequin dress was an angel in heels appearing to shepherds in the fields on the night shift, telling them that Good News had arrived on their doorstep., Oliver compared the decision to have a drag queen teach during Sunday service to other churches putting a flag on your altar, and called Simmons an incredible preacher, grounded as Allendale is, in Wesleyan and liberation theology., Mark Tooley, the president of the Institute on Religion and Democracy, believes drag queens like Simmons are becoming the new public face of United Methodism., "His children's sermon and role in the Eucharist at a Florida church showcase how drag ministry will now become mainstream in the denomination," Tooley told The Christian Post in an emailed statement. Comment by George on May 27, 2022 at 7:36 pm. Choose wisely. In caring for one another, we care for the Well of Justice the River of Peace the Source of Unyielding Love itself. He portrayed doctrine as an obstacle, rather than divinely established truths that lead to love, freedom, and the best care. We shouldnt ignore the fringe groups on either side. At this point Im starting to regret the first day I walked into a United Methodist church. Read more here. And again: The United Methodist Church associate pastor also claimed that queer spirituality and LGBTQ+ identity are the true expression of divinity. At the same time, Simmons also says he has received copious support from many official bodies within the church who are promoting him and inviting him to speak. ALWAYS Ad Free & UNCENSORED Threads post daily M-F @ 02:00, 07:00, 14:00 & 19:00 PDT Sat & Sun @ 07:00 PDT, Last year, the United Methodist Church officially accepted Isaac Simmons, who regularly preaches dressed as a drag queen under the name Ms. Penny Cost, as a candidate for ordination. Methodist Church's First Drag Queen Pastor: 'God Is Nothing' The drag queen name was derived from the biblical story of Pentecost, during which tongues of fire came upon Jesus' disciples and they were filled with the Holy Spirit enough to speak different languages. The Institute on Religion and Democracy, an organization which advocates for conservative theology in mainline Protestant churches reported on his approval for ordination, generating even wider controversy. UMC pastor relieved of duties after HBO drag queen performance | Church Comment by Theodore Miner on May 28, 2022 at 9:41 am. So this guy has to help it along? Conservatives argue that Simmons role as a celebrated figure among progressive Methodists proves the church has become so radically liberal as to forswear Christ. Last year, the United Methodist Church accepted Isaac Simmons, who regularly preaches dressed as a drag queen under the name Ms. Penny Cost, as a candidate for ordination. Surely I pray that you will find redemption and salvation before its too late. Maybe his church likes him but he would not be for every UMC church. Drag queen Kaelin performs at an outdoor brunch drag show at Hope UMC on Sunday, June 5, 2022. The Bible is something. Note: In the contemporary context, where the Old Testament penal code has been abolished with the ancient nation state of Israel, this should be understood to mean, that those who do such things should be defrocked and excommunicated. If not, I will come to you soon and war against them with the sword of my mouth.(Rev. Ian M. Giatti is a reporter for The Christian Post. Craig Duke, formerly the lead pastor of Newburgh United Methodist Church, was relieved of his duties effective Dec. 1. Simmons claims he has received hateful comments & backlash from traditional Methodists. The link referencing Simmons upcoming presentation to a large, liberal United Methodist congregation in Missouri goes to a 2018 conference held on the University of Missouri campus. Whats your point, Doctor ? First drag queen certified as a candidate for United Methodist ministry The UMC's Drag Queen Clergy Candidate. Video story by Joey Butler and Mike DuBose#drag #dragqueen #methodist #churchChristcuck PastorsFollow me on BitChute: https://www.bitchute.com/channel/christcuckpastors/Odysee: https://odysee.com/@ChristcuckPastors:aTwitter: https://twitter.com/Christcucks2Telegram: https://t.me/ChristcuckPastorsRumble: https://rumble.com/c/c-18554 Therefore repent. Comment by BG on June 21, 2022 at 2:11 pm. As the United Methodist Church (UMC) splits apart, the depth of the denominations division over human sexuality and related theological questions is becoming increasingly obvious. I gave her time to repent, but she refuses to repent of her sexual immorality. You said both sides. He comes from a military family reaching back to the Revolutionary War. While fully utilizing, to the letter of the law for financial gain, the disaffiliation legislation passed at their special called 2019 General Conference called by these bishops to solve the fifty year old human sexuality and marriage conflict and as they acknowledge the Global Methodist Church as a place for traditional-orthodox Methodists to land after disaffiliating, they are, at the same time, unilaterally resisting, sabotaging, undermining, and openly violating the other part of that same 2019 legislation on marriage and human sexuality thus escalating the church conflict into a full blown schism. Someone has to explain to me why this article is newsworthy? And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, maliciousness. A church in upstate New York marked LGBT pride month by hosting a pair of drag queens at a worship service. It stands out very clear that for Progressive Methodists, L O V E justifies sin. Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves, because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever! In Americas War Room he unpacks todays hot topics and their spiritual implications. However, the following passage focuses on direct quotes from a new slam poem posted online by Penny Cost: Rather, Duke has reached a place where he feels unable to continue to serve in parish ministry at present.. What We Believe Menu Toggle. Because its the fringe of the UMC, not the norm. This ridiculous behavior will wake people to the bitter fruit of liberal churches and denominations. Were you purchased for God with Christs blood? Duke told The Courier Press in a Tuesday interview that his wife, Linda, also stepped down from her role as the churchs youth pastor. Amen. In the video posted to his website this week, he declared that "God is nothing. Craig participated in the show in support of his daughter who identifies as pansexual. Beloved, although I was very eager to write to you about our common salvation, I found it necessary to write appealing to you to contend for the faith that was once for all delivered to the saints. The United Methodist News Service, which serves as the official UMC media outlet, has touted Simmons as the first drag queen to become a certified candidate for UMC ordination. Over the past few years, I have learned more about the national politics of the UMC than from anything my pastor, district superintendent, or bishop has told me. Celebrated United Methodist Drag Queen Activist Denounces Bible Isaac Simmons is the first openly gay man to be certified within the Illinois Great Rivers Conference, and the first drag queen certified in the United Methodist Church at Hope United Methodist Church in Bloomington, Illinois, RNS reported in April. Comment by Paul on May 28, 2022 at 3:06 pm. I guess thats the one thing she wanted to share with the world. I do think he makes valid points about people who wouldnt feel comfortable due to how they perceive themselves needing to be welcomed in an abundant way. Methodism & Society on Twitter Comment by Sue Landers on September 9, 2022 at 11:18 am. And all the churches will know that I am he who searches mind and heart, and I will give to each of you as your works deserve.(Rev. Cut off the liberals where it they care, funding. Behold, I will throw her onto a sickbed, and those who commit adultery with her I will throw into great tribulation, unless they repent of their works, and I will strike all her children dead. How in the world does anyone in the Methodist Conference approve someone for ordination who doesnt even belive in God? The Rev. Craig Duke performs in drag on the HBO series Were Here, which aired Nov. 8, 2021. Shame on the conference and those who went with the world rather than Gods Holy word. In a new poem, a gender-bending minister for the nations third-largest denomination says that queerness is divine. And in their greed they will exploit you with false words. Pastor Phil Hotsenpiller is a theologian, cultural thought leader, and biblical prophecy expert. Simmons replied, I wish! adding, No, I only get dressed up like this on special occasions. Allendale United Methodist Church Senior Pastor Andy Oliver (left) and drag queen Isaac Simmons who goes by the name "Ms. Penny Cost" talk to two young girls at church on Oct. 2, 2022. For example, there are a lot of former Southern Baptists preaching in Methodist churches that clearly are not Methodist in their theology nor appreciate the importance of connectionalism in Methodism. Isaac Simmons, a United Methodist Church candidate for ordination and associate pastor at Hope UMC in Bloomington, Illinois, recently spewed blasphemy in a new slam poem ode to the LGBTQ+ movement. Last year, the United Methodist Church accepted Isaac Simmons, who regularly preaches dressed as a drag queen under the name Ms. Penny Cost, as a candidate for ordination. About Press Copyright Contact us Creators Advertise Developers Terms Privacy Policy & Safety How YouTube works Test new features NFL Sunday Ticket Press Copyright . Which far right fringe group or groups are you referring to? Progressives promote Simmons and invite him to preach in drag as a way to challenge the conservative position on sexuality that the denomination officially still takes. Ms. Penny Cost discusses being the first drag queen certified candidate Simmons slam poem is where he declares most clearly his disbelief in the God of traditional Christianity, but he has repeatedly preached sermons where he upholds LGBTQ identity as divine. ", Also Read:UK Christians Hit Scottish Teacher's Union For Creating Blasphemous Play Starring A Transgender Jesus. In a church preparing to split over LGBTQ issues, the drag queen pastor, who embraces queer theology while barely attempting to plaster on the basic tenets of Christian theology, has become a lightning rod. As with other denominations, apparently the UMC isnt shrinking fast enough? He describes drag as a spiritual experience that allows him to connect with God. Methodist Church's First Drag Queen Pastor: 'God Is Nothing' of himself performing slam poetry in what may be his most provocative repudiation of traditional Christianity and embrace of queer spirituality. I would not be accepting of him in my church. Comment by George on May 30, 2022 at 2:05 pm. God is something. Simmons said he has received hateful comments as a result of the conservative backlash. If a prophet or a dreamer of dreams arises among you and gives you a sign or a wonder, and the sign arises among you and gives you a sign or a wonder, and the sign or wonder that he tells you comes to pass, and if he says, Let us go after other gods, which you have not known, and let us serve them, you shall not listen to the words of that prophet or that dreamer of dreams. UM clergy) on May 30, 2022 at 10:07 am. Drag allows me to process the mystery of myself, the mystery of God, the mystery of love, and the mystery of pain, he said. Institute on Religion and Democracy1023 15th Street NW, Suite 200Washington, DC 20005Contact us | Media requests. The denunciation is mutual. A United Methodist Church pastor in Indiana stepped down after performing in drag and speaking about inclusion on the show "We're Here." Pastor Craig Duke at the start of his drag. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error. But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction. Steve, you keep mentioning the far right fringe but fail to explicitly point them out. Duke was relieved from his pastoral duties last week at Newburgh United Methodist Church near Evansville, Indiana, after receiving pushback from congregants over his appearance on the show in which he wore a sky-high pink wig and lip-synched to Ke$ha, declaring, "Welcome to church." Since the liberal leadership that includes Bishops, district superintendents and any who have no courage to enforce the Book of Discipline and have been blinded by satan or their own quest for power and money, their sin is the greater sin. When I walk the streets in six-inch heels and wear four pounds of hair, double-stacked wigs, the power which lies within my mystery is released into the world. Comment by Loren J Golden on June 3, 2022 at 7:44 pm, Celebrated United Methodist Drag Queen Activist Denounces Bible If nothing else, what exactly does he think his career path is like in a denomincation hurtling towards extinction? A profanity-laced excoriation of God and the Bible ought to be sufficient reason, but if thats not enough, you might consider the ramifications of having a narcissistic drag-queen becoming the face of Jesus Christ in a religion specifically oriented towards humility and self-sacrifice. Comment by Jen on October 15, 2022 at 7:38 am. Methodist Church (Canada) - Wikipedia I, with every fiber of my being, believe that the Church should accept all. Simmons has recently accused The Institute on Religion and Democracy of defamation. Pastor is replaced after his appearance in HBO drag show 'We're Here' Simmons said he has received hateful comments as a result of the conservative backlash. Simmons has repeatedly delivered sermons in which he upholds queerness & LGBTQ identity as being divine. My Church is something that helps sustain my life. The Lord was most definitely getting us out of a down spiraling, hell bound religious organization. Isaac Simmons is an associate pastor at Hope UMC in Bloomington, Illinois, who describes himself as a "drag-evangelist" that goes by the stage name of Ms. Penny Cost. Conservatives argue that Simmons role as a celebrated figure among progressive Methodists proves the church has become so radically liberal as to forswear Christ. Methodist Church's First Drag Queen Pastor: 'God Is Nothing' The frequency with which this person appears in these pages does make one wonder. In a church denomination preparing to fracture over controversial LGBTQ issues, a drag queen pastor, who embraces queer theology while barely attempting to adhere to the basic tenets of Christian theology, has become a lightning rod of extreme controversy within the Methodist Church. Comment by David Miller on May 27, 2022 at 8:54 pm. Penny Cost (United Methodist Videos/YouTube), Ellie Gardey is Reporter and Associate Editor at. Can this be fixed to properly direct interested readers? Comment by Lynn on May 28, 2022 at 4:11 pm. Why should the UMC have to change everything for the small percentage of people who are forcing that change? Comment by Sue Landers on September 9, 2022 at 11:41 am. has challenged basic theological concepts, projecting a worldview where divinity rests not in God but in queerness. Disagreeing with someones theology does not warrant such words. He was featured in glowing terms, for instance, in a video produced by the United Methodist News Service. I have this against you, that you tolerate that woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess and is teaching and seducing my servants to practice sexual immorality and to eat food sacrificed to idols. Simmons obvious disdain for traditional believers and biblical faith raises many questions his candidacy for ordination. Just the fringe . Throughout the entire five-minute rant, Simmons belittles Gods divinity, holiness, and supremacy. The Institute on Religion and Democracy, which advocates for conservative theology in mainline Protestant churches, reported on his approval for ordination, generating wider attention (Simmons recently accused it of defamation). Ordination in the UMC has long been divorced from the orthodox Christianity. I recently met with a pastor who said he would not take sides. Comment by Rev. Many official bodies of the church are promoting him and inviting him to speak. Im ok with the homosexuaolity but NOT the language and saying things HE/SHEthinks is correct about the Bible. Return to homepage. You missed the point. The words being written about this candidate are not only unkind but ungodly in nature. 2.14-16) God is nothing, the self-described dragavangelist repeats throughout the poem, adding, the Bible is nothing and religion is nothing. In the end, he concludes God and the Bible are nothing unless we wield it into something., God must be f***ing nothing, he says, if her boundaryless, transubstantiated bodies of color are run down, beaten, and strewn in the streets of America instead of ruling the runways of life., He speaks of God not as Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, but rather as the source of queerness, describing him as nothing but a drag queen with a microphone of biblical f***ing proportions, nothing, but if she were, she would be yes, queen-ing her way down the runways of Paris and Montreal, and nothing, but if she were, she would be a seamstress of divide couture, weaving together string theory and self portraits to form the fiercest gowns of queer existence., He believes humanity, then, is an emanation of that divine queerness: From under a shroud of secrecy came the beauty of humanity, humanity made in the gender-bending, identity-breaking, system-shaking image of God, the imago Dei. He refers to humanity as Gods queerly anointed creation., Simmons writes that the poem is directed to those who actively and passively cause harm against the LGBTQIA2S+ Community due to their understandings of Scripture.. 2.1-3) Simmons currently serves at Hope UMC, where he hosts "drag queen Sundays," in which he preaches as Ms. Penny Cost. Phil earned a Bachelor of Arts, a Master of Divinity, and conducted postgraduate studies at Oxford University. He will not, however, be returning to the NUMC pulpit.. Conservatives are pointing to Simmons to encourage individual churches to join. A religious liberty newsletter that is a must-read for people of faith. Comment by John on June 3, 2022 at 1:55 pm, I am UMC clergy and sent the following message to the Illinois-Great Rivers Annual Conference Board of Ordained Ministry where Mr. Simmons provisional ordination will be voted on in clergy session. Is Mass Immigration Killing Two-Party Democracy in the U.S.? In this video, he calls the Bible nothing but poetry, pain, and performance and refers to God as God, themself (avoiding male pronouns for God). Well, I watched the video/poem and understand what he is trying to do. " This is, of course, a conservative publication. Are you trying to tear us apart because there are those who cant accept you? One hundred & seven churches in Florida havealready lefteven though the denominational split is not yet officially formalized. The drag queen's bright red hair represents the tongues of fire, while her appearance is that of a "1960s church lady.". He has published ten books, including the highly acclaimed One Nation without Law., New Election Integrity Fears: Georgia County Ballot Machines off by Thousands When Hand Counted, Fatherly: Taking Your Kids to Pride Parades Is Absolutely Fatherly: Taking Your Kids to Pride Parades Is Absolutely Necessary. Dr. Cary, I agree; Im sure you are aware that a significant number of us awakened laity have already escaped the heresy, insanity and fecklessness of the UMC. Pastor Craig Duke . The United Methodist Church was ready to split in 2020, but that has been postponed until 2024 because its quadrennial general conference was canceled due to COVID-19. The poem eventually devolves into a condemnation of theology of toxic masculinity and Christian terrorists who wield their flappable doctrine to inflict harm on Gods queerly anointed creation. Simmons even likens Christians with traditional biblical beliefs to literal murderers of gay people likeAaron McKinney,Roger Nunez, andOmar Mateen. Church, but make it drag. Comment by There is precedent for this on May 27, 2022 at 10:59 am. One hundred seven churches in Florida have. My family left the UMC last year. In a new poem, a gender-bending minister for the nation's third-largest denomination says that queerness is divine. ", The Blazereported that in the blasphemous speech, Simmons repeatedly declared that "God is nothing," "the Bible is nothing," and "religion is nothing. Methodist Church's First Drag Queen Pastor: 'God Is Nothing' He describes drag as a spiritual experience that allows him to connect with God. The only way this strategy would be effective is for local traditional churches to stop any and all payments, leave the UMC and move on. And against the bishops who allow this young man to spread his blasphemies abroad in the churches of Jesus Christ: Join thousands of others to get the FREEDOM POST newsletter for free, sent twice a week from The Christian Post. And shame shame shame on those who felt this was ok to happen. Simmons has published anew videoof himself performing slam poetry in what may be his most provocative & blasphemous repudiation ever of traditional Christian values in what many consider a blasphemous advocation of queer spirituality. Dying United Methodism faces only further tragedy ahead.. Hope youll give us another try and check out some other articles. "God is nothing, but if she were, she would be yes, queen-ing her way down the runways of Paris and Montreal, strutting between that tightrope pulled taught between absurdity and opulence, balancing between too much and never enough," Simmons argued. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); The work of IRD is made possible by your generous contributions. [CDATA[*/Insticator.ad.loadAd("div-insticator-ad-1");Insticator.ad.loadAd("div-insticator-ad-2");Insticator.load("em",{id : "6cf39429-6912-4a91-b1e2-3e9365a5e9c6"});/*]]>*/. Allowing folks to flaunt this behavior and begin the process of ordination is pathetic. This will not work unless all local givers simply stop at once. Hope youll give us another try and check out some other articles. Pastor Duke called his HBO experience in drag not only "worshipful" but an "incredibly wonderful, refreshing, deepening, powerful spiritual experience.". If you would also like to send a message, you can use their contact form at: https://igrc-reg.brtapp.com/bomcontact. United Methodist Church Associate Pastor And Drag Queen Gives The others seem to work properly. The video immediately raises questions about the wisdom of ordaining Simmons. If this person was saying the same things, except condoning and exploiting kinky pre-marital or extra-marital sex, there would be outrage rather than acceptance. Ms. Penny Cost is a symptom of a larger issue facing the UMC, and a possible indicator of the future of the post-separation United Methodist Church.